What I've learned with the grip is that we talk a lot about Hogan's grip, he had a weak grip and everything. So I've always found with my students, a weak grip really constitutes the backup or the need for someone who actually rotates their arms.

When you say we, you're saying turn to the left.

Yeah, so know if you held it up, we'd only see one knuckle or two knuckles, from my view up here, the golfer's view.

And where does that leave open that hand up for you? That's laying pretty much standard, where the fingers meet the palm there. Yup, right across there. Always thumb on top. I always like thumb on top because we need to support it on our backswing. So we can do that, like Bernhard Langer, had a quite a strong grip.

Yeah.

Now when I say a strong grip even Duval or someone like that. To me, that's someone who uses their body a lot more as a release.

More of a blocking.

So it's a more, exactly. So you can have a different grip. So that's where my thoughts are different. I like to see the individual or point him to a path. And then their grip can alter or meet what they're trying to do. So if you had a student that had a grip where they enjoyed gripping the club there with one knuckle. You can have more that.

Exactly. Yeah. Because you've got to rotate your arm. The weaker the grip, the more the club is going to rotate around your arm.

Pretty much how you played, right?

Exactly. Yeah. So to me, growing up when I was a little kid, I had a strong grip. Yeah, I had quite a strong grip.

A lot of kids do because it gives them more, they can hold on to it.

Yeah, and you feel you can give it a bit of a smash factor. So over time, that with a bit of a too much draw for me. So I eventually, as I got stronger, I could weaken that off.

So basically, what you're saying Bradley is right out of the gate, the way you grip the club, then you need to learn how it releases.

Yeah. And that's very important. So you can see that as we talk about, that's quite a weak-- to me it's neutral, but for a lot of people--

When you look down, you're just seeing one.

I'm seeing yeah, pretty much one. But I like that weak grip, because when I hold the club, I feel all the strength of my arm here.

Up in the back side.

Yeah, and right up my ulna, up my forearm there.

You've got all of it.

That to me, even though it looks weak, that to me feels strong. Because I have really good control of that club. Right hand on the same. And right hand you see a lot of people really-- I think a lot of people do the grip back to front. They get two fingery in their left hand, and they get too much palm in their right hand.

You know how strong and how big I am on the right hand grip. With Alex Mercer. Tips of the fingers.

So you can see. I don't know if you can zoom in there Terry. You can see you got the calluses right there. That's pretty much where my right hand, that's where I hold the club with.

That's like Hogan's book. Right in the base there.

Yeah. And from there, if I have the club in there, I always have the feeling that that right hand is pushing through the shot. So it's not under. And it's not too fingered and on top. I've basically got that hand pushing through the shot. And with a right handed golfer, that's our dominant hand or dominant arm. So we want to use it in a way that we don't distort the club, but we give it as much power and control as we can.