Brian Herman, mate. Congratulations, first of all, for a tremendous year on tour. You won the Wells-Fargo. You finished top 30 on the money list, and you led the US open for 65 holes?

Yeah.

65 holes?

Mm-hm.

Before we get into how we got to this point, what is your takeaway for this year? What do you feel like about this year?

I felt like it was a good year. I was consistent. The beginning of the year, I had some goals. I met most of those goals. But as you know, we're never happy. You're never happy with anything, really. That's why we all end up angry old men after this game is done with us. So even we sit here, it's the end of the year, my mind is just turning on what am I to do this off-season and how I'm going to get ready for next year.

What are you sort of thinking right now? Like you say, you played consistent. Was there a stand-out thing that you would like to improve on?

Yeah. I don't have-- I didn't feel like I had much of an identity as a ball striker. I think sometimes I try to be a little bit too much of a hybrid. Sometimes I can hit it a little further and try to overpower a course, but I haven't quite made my mind up if I'm more of an accuracy guy or if I'm more of a power guy.

That's dangerous too, right?

It is dangerous.

It's dangerous, because--

Yeah, it is.

--you know, I played the whole tour all my life and back-- I'm not that much older than everyone else, but we weren't focused on distance when we played. Because I came out when there was Persimmon there, but we never said this guy's 10 yards further. I don't know what it was, but it seemed like we were more into the second shot.

Mm-hm.

We had guys that hit the ball really close to the pin that were kind of our idols, like Cal Peete. He would hit three or four shots like this every day. Hale Irwin did the same thing. Hal Sutton did the same thing. Guys that could really hit it stiff, and it made us young guys kind of chase pins and shoot it in their close, you know? Today's game's about sending it.

Yeah. A lot of the courses are. We still play Harbour Town, and we still play Colonial. And it doesn't matter as much there how far the ball goes, but a lot of these new courses it does. I think you'd be ignorant to not acknowledge that, OK, the game is definitely moving towards a longer player. Now, when I look at my driving stats, I hit it about 290 off the tee. I've done that since my rookie year in 2012. And I've gone from 70th in distance to 80th to 90th to 120th hitting it 290.

But my arguing point for that would be that you were 100th on the money, 70th on the money--

Yeah.

--60th, 30th.

Yes.

So that's my counter-argument to you.

Well, I think hopefully-- and I talked with Zach Johnson a lot about this. Him and I are close-- and because he worries about hitting it far. And I always tell him like, hey, they're never going to be able to make a course that's too long for us. But they can certainly make a course that's too hard for other guys.