So you're really good. You go to University of Georgia. What was that like? Were you good in college? Did you kill it in--

I was not great in college.

So you peaked early, and then you flattened out a little bit?

I peaked early. Like I said, I got to college. I won my first tournament. I had just come off [? a ?] Walker Cup. We had a great year my freshman year. Came up a little short of NCAAs. I was a second team All-American. But I never--

Still on track to--

Still doing OK. Sophomore year, kind of the same thing. Won once, and then I didn't win again, junior, senior year. Junior year, I fell off, played terrible. And my senior year, I didn't start playing well until the last semester of my senior year. I started playing well again, and then--

So were you in sort of a recalculating mode? Were you thinking, is this for me? Or do I go to the [? Tour ?] now? What do I do?

I never-- looking back, I think about those things a lot. Like, man, I probably should have turned pro earlier, because it would have given me a new challenge. And then I would have just kind of, you know, springboarded off of that. But I got a little banged up in college, you know? I hurt my hand just a little bit, and I tried to play through it. And it got worse.

I got worse. I lost confidence. I didn't hit the ball as well as I had. And courses were tougher. You know, the course that we were playing--

Competition, way more?

Yeah, competition. Guys are coming up, you know? A guy like Billy Horschel, I mean, he walked on in Florida, and he's a three- or four-time first team All-American. Couldn't beat him.

Jason Dufner--

Out of nowhere.

--walked on at Auburn-- major champion.

Yeah.

So every road is different, right, for each player?

That's right. That's right. So I struggled in college, because I was such an independent guy in high school and in middle school, to where I practiced because I wanted to practice. And coaches at Georgia never forced us to practice.

But now I've got-- you know, we've got workouts. We've got class. We've got all these things that-- I just didn't have the time that I wanted. I didn't have the personal time.

The school was cramping the golf a little bit.

And I didn't have the-- you know, I'm a big hunter, big fisherman. And that's how I'd--

Relax.

--relax from the game. And I didn't have time to do those things.

Yeah. So you got out of your routine a little bit. I remember Jack Nicklaus telling me once that his greatest thing about the year was knowing he was going back to Ohio and be shut down for four months.

Mm-hm.

He wasn't coming-- he was going back in November. He wasn't coming back to Florida until March.

Yeah.