You know the difference in what you have in the Arris, everybody used to play outside in-- steep, like this. And they'd cut across it, and hit all their shots like that.
When Seve came along, because he'd been on the beach with that 3-iron hitting all those shots, he started getting wider and rounder, like this, so that the club was on plane. So this would point at the target line like this. So he could drag it and stay real shallow as he went through like that and get the sand to go a lot faster than the ball to create the spin that he wanted.
And so Crenshaw adopted that. So Ben started copying it too getting--
--he was trying to get flatter. Most guys that go up, when they make a mistake, they'll then--
--drop it under.
And they're given no chance.
And then they get the front edge in.
That's what Vaughn Noga used to do too. He'd have this feel-- now, I know that's not what you're saying-- but with the club head. Vaughn would go-- you feel like he'd hold it out. It's still here. But he'd hold it there.
The reverse arc.