One of the things that we're going to add with Chuck Cook, to Secret Platform is-- as our amateurs our content from what we call the master players-- which is the tour players-- we're going to use all these decades of experience of teaching the amateurs to kind of walk them through that, if you will, to sort of unlock the fix. You like that?

Yeah, definitely. Anything to help amateurs just have a little better understanding of what they can do better.

You have a lot of lessons under your belt. You're a surgeon that's had a lot of surgery.

I have a few.

That's the great thing about Chuck is-- and I think he'll say this is, he learns more from dealing with the high-handicap players, and the amateurs, and how to teach them, and how to get them to understand how to swing a golf club properly-- then maybe out of a tour player.

Well you go through. When you're learning, you're teaching higher-handicap players, and so you're teaching different body types, different builds, strength, hand-eye coordination levels--

What their strengths are?

Different mental abilities, you know, what they know about the game, or don't know about the game, their are concepts of the game and so forth-- So yeah, you multiply your experience with those guys. And then, as you work with better and better players, you work in a different direction. Because they're trying to-- you guys are trying to get something different than what the amateur golfer is trying to get.

And, as you know, as you get better at golf, the piece of the pie is incrementally harder to achieve, right?

Of course.

Like, when you're a beginner, you can make big leaps and bounds, right?

Yeah, no question.

Is there an entry level into your methods and thinking? Like, for me, I like, all my students I try to get them to have a good grip when they start. Is there any entry level, or do you just see what they have?

Well, I think-- what I find is that every ball fly is related to what happens at impact. And what happens at impact is related to how they start, how they take it back, where they are, and so on and so forth.

So I don't do a lot of-- let's say group deal, where I'm going to give everybody the same grip, everybody the same stance, everybody the same posture-- that type of thing. And so it's more to fix it.

So, let's say you have somebody with a weak grip, a really weak grip, that flips the heck out of it. And it goes left. They flip the heck out of it because the grip is weak. But I may not change the grip--

You may changed the delivery, right?

I may change the delivery first, and then change the grip. You can get to the same place, but you're getting at it from a different way.