Steve Elkington, Jason Dufner & Chuck Cook: TrackMan - Making Micro Adjustments

Steve Elkington, Jason Dufner & Chuck Cook discuss how two players with major championship and various tournament wins can have very different golf swings. Elk and Duff measure their swings with the TrackMan.


So what we have here are two major champions-- two guys that won the PGA Championship, as well as numerous other golf tournaments. And they have totally different golf swings. And they come about for several reasons. The bodies are different, their history is different with the game and how they played. They have different actions. Basically, Duff is more around and around with his swing, because his lower body is not mega-dynamic. Whereas Al, because his lower body makes so much motion coming down, he has to swing upright, and then shallow the club out as it comes down because his legs are moving. But they both come down on the same line, they just have different ways of getting there.

So we're going to look at that. And we do that a couple of different ways. One is we do it through filming. And I've just started just using my iPhone, because it gets 240 frames a second, which is a great picture. And also, using TrackMan to measure the numbers on which we're getting. So you guys have that. Let's see you go a little bit.

We've got a 6 iron, right?

We've both got 6 irons.

They both have 6 irons.

Obviously, it's pretty clear we're into a stout wind here. So just instinctively, we're probably going to be trying to knock this down.

We'll make some adjustments. The numbers could be a little skewed on TrackMan.

The club face was going to be close to the path for both of you. What's going to happen?

We're target orientated. I talked a lot about that. We're very good at acquiring targets. So we're both going to do what we want the ball to do to get to that yellow flag. We might not do it every time, but if the wind's blowing way right, our face is probably going to be closed a little bit. If the wind's blowing way left, probably going be open.

The point being, you don't just get up here and make your swing. There's some micro-adjustments that are being made always, right?


100%. And this happens when you're using the measurements, you have to be able to read them. Because that's what we see. With Duff last year in Hawaii, the first day of practice, the wind's from the left like it is today. And every swing, the club face was closed to the path. The next day, the wind was just as hard from the right, and the club face was open to the path. It's just good player's instinct to make the ball go to the target.

And what will we be looking on that today for 6 irons? You'll be looking for face-to-path ratio. But what kind of spin numbers would you be looking at here?

We're going to normalize the numbers, which means that what will happen is that the device will figure out what the numbers would be if there wasn't wind based on the impact factors that it reads. And so we're looking for somewhere around 1,000 a number. So you guys have 6 irons, so something around 6,000. 200 either way is generally what we look for. So something between 58 and 6,200 is what we want.

How far do you think you would hit the 6 iron into this wind?

Into this wind, I'm probably looking at maybe 170 max.

You'll get 170?

Yeah, I feel like this. You know, I'm about 185 carry with my 6 iron, little bit in. But you're going to go first. I'm going to give you age before beauty. How does that sound?


Let me get out of the way. I'm going to come over here on this side. So our target's that yellow--

The yellow flag.

The yellow flag.

Yellow stick. I've already got my face closed to the path.