Is there something you do the same when you warm up? I mean, I know you've got a sand wedge. I mean, I know the answer to some of these questions. But a lot of people don't know the answers.

You've already gone to your 60. Is there a shot you're trying to establish right out of the gate? Are you trying to make your muscles loose? What are you doing right here?

So one of the things I struggle with all the time is I'm a right elbow dragging.

A right elbow.

So as with this, you know, I get my right elbow going this way. Right? So I get this thing dragging. So I'm always trying to get my right elbow moving forward.

I see.

Because when I get my right elbow dragging, it closes the clubface for me, because I'm--

Or the other way.

Or the other way.

So you're working on that right out of the gate.

Right out of the gate, especially with my pitches.

As soon as you come to golf, as soon as you come to-- in the morning, first swing.

It's my number one thing that Drew and I work, that Drew Steckle.

And Drew Steckle, who is a friend of Secret Golf, has worked with Pat Perez. His most famous student, of course, is Justin Timberlake.

Of course. Of course.

You know, you've got to have that. So right out of the gate, you're working on-- yeah, you're not worried about your muscles, none of that.

Well, I mean--

Do you put it in or do you try to get it on the way?

I'm trying to feel like I'm almost doing that.

That.

You know what I mean? To where I'm trying to feel--

And what's the bad one look like?

It goes kind of-- see where I-- basically what I'm trying to do is control the clubface.

Yeah.

You know, and a lot of that just comes from hitting really good pitches to where I'm trying to feel like the butt of the club stays forward.

Yeah.

And that that makes me feel like my elbow keeps moving forward.

I see.

So basically what my feeling is is that my arms are moving quicker.

Quicker?

Yes. So when my arms feel like they start dragging, I have to feel like they catch up and flip over.

I see. Does it do it automatically, or do you have to override it with a good thought?

For me, I have to override it.

With a good thought?

Yeah, because--

Does it ever stay in your swing? Obviously, when you're winning or something.

That's the point. I mean, you know, it's like you've got to do the 10,000 hours deal.

Yeah.

You know, for me, with what I'm built with, that's just my number one thing. That's my number one key. You know, I always try to feel like I have to give myself room--

To get it in there.

So without trying to thrust my hips forward going towards the ball. So I'm always trying to feel like my arms are staying out in front.

And you're kind of moving out of the way back that way.

I'm trying to feel like I'm giving myself space and room to stay out of the way with my body tilts and trying to feel like that right arm is moving forward without it dragging and going that way.

Got it.

So basically, I'm trying to control the clubface with my right arm. I think the right elbow is such a key, important factor of a golf swing.

You bet. I know, for me, when I think of what you say, and then I think of myself, I am really conscious of it where it is back here. I never think of it down here, me. But I really think about it where it is back here.

It's like I know when you say drag, to me, that tells me that it's not like--

In front.

It's not right here in front of me. I like this feel back there.

Yeah, holding the pizza.

Whatever, yeah. But if I let the elbow tip just a fraction, then--

It tips over.

--it's what you're talking about.

Yeah.

So I manage it on the backswing. Everyone's different.